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Speaker 1 00:02:24 Now, today on the podcast, Eva Delicious is joining me. And she has been celebrating sensual expression and shaking up the patriarchy since 2010. Known as the Godmother of Glitter, she creates spaces where self-love takes center stage, on stage and off. A featured performer at festivals like T0 and Burning Man. Eva also leads transformative journey dance experiences, online moon circles, and self-love retreats. Her work blends embodiment, empowerment and joy. Based in Portland, Oregon. Eva lives with her husband, two teenage sons, one bouncy pup, and more costumes than closets. Let's dive in. Here is Eva. Delicious. Hi, Eva. Hello. I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 2 00:03:18 Oh, yeah. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 00:03:20 I'm excited for this conversation. I can't wait to see where it's going to go and to kick it off. I just have one question, which is, what is one thing you either did or did not do that has led you to your yes filled life?
Speaker 2 00:03:35 I always tried to go toward the positive, so I will answer with what I have done.
Speaker 2 00:03:42 And this. It sounds simple, but it was revelatory when it happened, and I've come back to it many times, and that is to stay with what brings me joy. as much as possible. Life is life. You know, it's hard. There are things that come up. There are times when we're confused where we don't know where we're going or what we're doing. But if we can be in touch enough with ourselves to be clear on what brings us a spark, a little bit of happiness, a smile to our face. I think in those times where we're lost or confused, when we continue being with those things as much as possible. And I'm talking about nourishing joy, not like short term escape. I'm talking about what really feels fills your soul and warms your heart. it's that it's really those things. And it's been different things at different points in my life, too. It's not always like just one thing. It's like it changes. But as long as I have stayed connected to my joy, Way.
Speaker 2 00:04:52 It keeps me hopeful. It keeps me in my creativity. It grounds and nourishes me so that I can show up as my favorite self.
Speaker 1 00:05:03 I love that. And you're pointing to something that's so important, which is really the point of life is to find joy. And not all life is joyful. And it really is our work to use that as sort of like a beacon of come this way, come this way. There's there's more joy here.
Speaker 2 00:05:24 Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 00:05:25 I love that. So for the listener that does not know you. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and the work you do in the world.
Speaker 2 00:05:32 Sure. I call myself an embodiment coach who works through dance to help people connect with their joy, build their intuition and belief and confidence in themselves. And I do that through a few ways. one is through burlesque classes and performance. Another is through a modality called journey dance, which is really free form, but guided movement to help you be with the whole range of your emotions and all your many selves.
Speaker 2 00:06:09 And the last way that I do it, well, I guess it it's a it's a bigger thing, but it encompasses many. It's through circles, or gatherings, new moon circles, retreats, sometimes group coaching. You know, the the circle magic.
Speaker 1 00:06:28 I love this. So not everybody knows what burlesque is. Could you describe that for the listener? That's like, okay, I've heard the word. I have seen the movie on my Netflix queue, but I don't actually know what it is.
Speaker 2 00:06:40 Yes. well, I will say the movie with, Cher and Christina Aguilera is delightful, but not entirely accurate as to what we do, but there are some fantastic documentaries that give you a better insight into what burlesque actually is. my short kind of silly answer is it's theatrical stripping that doesn't pay very well. the bigger answer is really that it's a place for the performer to be wildly creative and also personally expressive with how they share themselves. It can involve different levels of dress or undress, and there's often reveals we would call that.
Speaker 2 00:07:25 But that doesn't necessarily have to be a piece of clothing. It could be the character that is happening. mostly it's tongue in cheek and very joyful and sassy and fun. yeah. And it's what I think distinguishes it from many, many art forms is that it's so directed by the presenter that it's open to a lot of people. Like you don't have to, like, have grown up and been a professional dancer to become a burlesque performer. It's more of a a fringe art form that's open to the people, and there's a lot of interaction with the audience. There's not kind of that fourth wall, like, you're just watching me. It's very much a give and take and a play between the audience and the performer.
Speaker 1 00:08:14 That sounds so fun. And from my lens of also being a different kind of embodiment coach, I can see that this would be incredibly empowering to push up against the edge of societal norms. And I'm wondering how how comfortable is a typical performer when they begin to study burlesque? And does that evolve over time? And I guess what I'm really asking is if somebody is feeling a little bit shy, how could they or can they engage in burlesque? You're brilliant, successful, really good at what you do.
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Speaker 2 00:10:17 first of all, everybody can do it.
Speaker 2 00:10:19 That's what I would say. Your level of comfort will vary, just like with anything in life. I happen to grow up dancing. So for me, getting on stage in front of people was pretty normal and natural. but, you know, peeling off layers of clothing and revealing parts of yourself was not something that I had done. So that was a huge growth edge for me. I think really that what we have found in Body Magic Temple is the best way to do it is to be in a community of supportive people, people who welcome your creativity, who want to see you shine, who will hold out that light for you even when you don't see it yourself? And yeah. And who welcome you to be you, whatever you is, you know? So, like, there are many styles of burlesque, when we have performers come in to do their first solo act, we I say, do what's going to light you up. Whatever the act is, that's going to make you feel good, powerful, joyful, celebratory, sexy, whatever it is you're going for, let's do that.
Speaker 2 00:11:33 And then we teach all the basic skills, like costuming and makeup, to help build the vision, and we hold the person as they get ready to do that, you know, like some people are really nervous and some people are like, I got this. I'm ready to go. Everyone goes through an arc of change, and I see it more offstage than on stage, to be honest. Like, you know, I can of course I can see if somebody improves in their dance and presentation skills and things like that. But mostly I see it when they're offstage, there is a different level of inner radiance that comes, and there are so much more confidence. And like we jokingly say, this is the place you come when you're ready to make big changes in your life, because that's what happens when you get confident. You know you no longer stand for being treated in in ways that aren't nourishing to you as a whole person long term. So people in relationships, they change jobs, they move, they start beautiful relationships that are what they have been wanting.
Speaker 2 00:12:40 yeah, it's it's really incredible. It's definitely not just what you see on stage.
Speaker 1 00:12:46 I think that's such an important point to make. And it doesn't even matter what the performance modality is, whether we're talking about dance or ballroom dance or musicians, there's something internal that happens when you allow yourself to be seen, and when not only you're allowing yourself to be seen, but you're taking center stage, even if it's in a group and you're allowing yourself to be in this vulnerable position of expressing something, whether it's through movement or through song. I think it's so cool. I was a choir director for 26 years, and I saw this in my students too, where there was something that happened in the process, where they began to believe in themselves and they began to think, you know what? I'm good at this. But it was never just about the music. It always was about so much more. And I'm curious, is that also what led you to be curious around Journey Dance?
Speaker 2 00:13:48 Yeah. I mean, I myself was exposed to Journey dance.
Speaker 2 00:13:52 It might be like almost 15 years ago. It was well, maybe it was more like 12 years ago because it was early when I started performing burlesque. I remember that dates are hard for me, but time periods I get, and I just, I went to a women's conference, and the woman who created Journey Dance, Tony Perkins, was also there. I did a presentation in burlesque, and she led a journey dance, and it was so powerful. It was so powerful and incredible. Through the visualization and the movement, I, I went to a totally different place and she brought us to finding, our, our inner child essentially, which is where a lot of us need healing and holding. And so I had a very profound moment and was always interested in the work. But I had two young children at the time. she lives on the East Coast, and so it just hadn't become possible. And then Covid happened. This is one of those things that was actually kind of awesome because of the changes that happened in the world.
Speaker 2 00:14:57 So she took her trainings online and I was able to do it. And again, so much personal release and growth and expansion and just ability to be with myself. You know, like it's it's hard to find what brings you joy if you can't even be with yourself. Right. If you're always running around and, trying to buy something or be something or look like someone else, or dissociate by shopping or being in your phone or drinking or whatever it is, it's really hard to know what who you are.
Speaker 1 00:15:32 That's right.
Speaker 2 00:15:33 Yeah. And so it's a fabulous tool for that. And I, I loved it so much. I had already been doing a group coaching program at that time, which was very based in burlesque movement, because that was the movement that I had, and it was awesome to a point, but because it wasn't really oriented around performance, I don't know. There was only so far that the burlesque took us, I guess, and the journey dance just went just so much deeper.
Speaker 2 00:16:04 And what I love about it is that it's accessible to people who may never want to be on stage, you know, like I everyone, I believe everyone can be on stage. I really, truly believe that. But not everybody wants to.
Speaker 1 00:16:16 Yes, I agree with both. Everybody can and not everybody wants to.
Speaker 2 00:16:20 Yes. Yeah. So yeah, just, you know, another way to support people and myself.
Speaker 1 00:16:26 You know, it's interesting all of the modalities that I'm trained in, I originally was drawn to because there was some type of healing that I needed from that.
Speaker 2 00:16:38 Totally.
Speaker 1 00:16:38 And so I'm hearing that in your story and I'm thinking, yeah, this is so cool. Even when I started ballroom dancing, I knew that there was more in it for me than the dance. It was about coming face to face with, could I be in partnership? Could I allow myself to be led? And all those things were really challenging for me because I identify as a really strong woman. I would identify as a feminist.
Speaker 1 00:17:05 And it it came up against all of my beliefs. How do I maintain this idea of feminism and also allow myself to be in feminine embodiment.
Speaker 2 00:17:19 Totally having done tango lessons with my husband? I know what you mean. It's it's marriage counseling. Partnership counseling.
Speaker 1 00:17:28 Yes. Indeed. Indeed.
Speaker 3 00:17:32 Oh, yes. Absolutely. It's true. I think we all.
Speaker 2 00:17:37 You know, we gravitate to certain types of healing that are out there. And then each of us has this ability to like, if you're a, you know, a healer or someone who's holding this space, you, you synthesize it in a way that the people that, that you're working with can receive it, and that becomes your special magic or, you know, medicine for people.
Speaker 1 00:18:02 Absolutely. And, you know, to that point, you mentioned group coaching programs that you had been a part of. And I am like the queen of taking a group coaching course or signing up for another certification. And there's sometimes a part of me that thinks, gosh, are you signing up really for one more thing? But then I realize that's also what creates this unique magic of all the different perspectives and all the different mentors that can come together in this unique soup?
Speaker 2 00:18:31 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:18:32 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know what you mean, because sometimes you're like, oh, gosh, another one. But my husband, my husband the other day was commenting on to my, my, one of my sons, and he said, you know, your mom's not happy if she's not learning. Which is true. It's totally true. And all of it ends up getting folded in to what I offer to other people, but I do. I have a voracious desire to to know more. To learn more. Yeah. And you know, and then it's to the benefit of everybody else, too. You know, it helps me, but it helps everybody else. And like, we need all of us, right? We need the people who are, like, out there, like breaking ground, pulling the stuff out of the ethers. You know, I don't necessarily feel like I'm one of those people who, like, suddenly, like, arrives in this, like, here's this thing, right? But I am one of those people who brings it together and, and is able to bring it to the people who need it and bring the people together to experience it.
Speaker 2 00:19:32 You know, like, I'm definitely let's create this community of healing and support, and then we're going to explore all of these things together.
Speaker 1 00:19:41 I love that. And one of the things that I'm sensing about you and the way that you might work, is that your healing to the next level, as you're offering the healing through what you're teaching, does that feel like it fits?
Speaker 2 00:19:55 Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you are too. I think.
Speaker 1 00:19:59 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:20:00 That's how you do it.
Speaker 1 00:20:02 I think so, and I think the people that are working with integrity, that's how they do it, is they're always healing a few steps ahead and not ignoring the fact that we all have healing to do all the time, because life is continuing to show us a new curriculum as we uplevel.
Speaker 2 00:20:20 That's right. That's right. Oh, I feel like I've been being called to another level lately, and I'm ready for a pause in that level, I'm going to say, but I'm so thankful for all of the tools that I have now and and I can see it like before, in the past, where I might have been going through something, it would have been torture, you know, and torture for everybody around me because I didn't know how to handle myself.
Speaker 2 00:20:46 Now I am able to I don't think it's any less difficult, but I can see all the things and the bigger picture of what's going on and what I need to stay calm and centered in it, and even to be able to proactively center other people and calm them so that we can keep showing up for, you know, the tasks that need to be done. You know, we all go through these periods in life where it feels like everything is happening all around you, and it's relentless. and I'm not even talking about, like, the broader world. I'm just talking about my little world right now. My family. Right. Like, it's one of those times. but having done the healing and and the work and staying in it, right? I mean, I'm not done. I guess you're never done. I can keep bringing myself back. I can keep calming myself, grounding myself, centering, or I'm able to kindly say to people, I am maxed out, I love you, I need you to take this peace.
Speaker 2 00:21:51 yeah. Which is also really amazing. You know, like, we don't have to be buried by it all and always be responsible for it all. We can tap out, but it's a different to do it with kindness and compassion and communication than to just bail.
Speaker 1 00:22:07 Absolutely. And you're you're speaking about something really important, which is using tools. So sometimes I think that there's this myth in, in, in culture. And I hear people say like, how are you calm all the time? And my answer is I'm not. I'm not calm all the time, but I have really good tools so that by the time I show up, it appears as though I'm calm. It's not that I have been calm the whole time, it's that I've been using my tools and in order to achieve that calm. And that's what I hear you saying, is that you're using the tools to navigate the stressful times, the anxiety producing times. And I think that's such an important point, so that there's nobody out there thinking, well, I'm the only one going through stuff and what's wrong with me? Right?
Speaker 2 00:22:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I don't think our society really teaches us a lot of these, these self-care tools, you know? I mean, if we're really blessed, maybe we are in a community that does that.
Speaker 2 00:23:10 Maybe we're in, you know, some sort of an organization like, you know, a church or something that teaches us that as we're growing up, I'm. Yeah. I just don't think it's out there. Like, we kind of have to find it for ourselves. We have such a hustle society and such a society that, like, cuts us off here, you know, like we're ahead thinking, doing things, achieving. And we're a body generally that needs to be fixed, especially if it's a feminine presenting one. you know, and we don't we don't get to maintain this connection between all of us. So like, we lose the capability to receive the messages and then and we don't have the tools to manage them. Right. So yeah, I mean it is it's it's constant. I'm I'm definitely not super calm on the inside. I just am able to, you know, to be with it enough that I'm, I'm no longer going to push that on to other people. Right. Because that's, that's my job is to handle, you know, the, the upsets, the disruption, the whatever.
Speaker 2 00:24:16 You know, I, I'm going to handle that and I'm not going to continue perpetuating it to the world like nobody needs that, right? We're all working hard. Like we don't need to put it on each other.
Speaker 1 00:24:28 That's right. And you said something I'd love to pull the thread on. You said something about in a feminine presenting body. There's this idea so often that there's something about it that needs to be fixed. And I wonder if we can dive a little bit deeper into that, because there's this fine line between how you take care of yourself, like actually doing healthy types of things and body love, and then what, the patriarchy. And I want to be clear that the patriarchy being a system, not a group of people, what the patriarchy says feminine beauty really looks like. And I'm I would love to hear your perspective and your insights on this.
Speaker 2 00:25:13 I mean, I take it from that, that perspective of control because to me, what the message of patriarchy is that, deep down fertility, the reproductive capacity and is what needs to be controlled and that's, you know, gotten broadened to many things.
Speaker 2 00:25:35 And I am a history nerd. So you can look back and talk about how back in the day when the patriarchy came in, the priestesses and the women were the ones who owned the property. And so there's also that material aspect of it. but I just I look at it as control, you know, I feel like however you want to present yourself beside you want to present yourself. That's it. But it's it's it's who's making the choice, you know? Am I doing it to appease or, please, an external thing? Or am I doing it because I feel good that way? truly, you know, and I know some people will say, oh, maybe you're internalizing the patriarchy and you're trying to look a certain way and do a certain, you know, okay. I know there's layers to unpack in those kinds of things, but, you know, I just like what makes me feel good. I love getting my nails done. It makes me happy. I put spells in them sometimes you know like then it's like always my little reminder of whatever it is I need, you know, joy, calming, sparkle, sassiness, whatever it is it makes me happy.
Speaker 2 00:26:45 So therefore I do it.
Speaker 1 00:26:47 I love this. And I'm wondering for the person who's just beginning to unpack this. Can we talk a little bit about how to know the difference between I'm dressing in this way because I want someone else to think something, or I'm dressing this way because I feel like a million bucks. What are the differences in how that feels in your body? And then maybe we can take it broader into maybe the people that you work with. How do you help them discern which is which?
Speaker 2 00:27:15 Yeah, well, I think there are two parts of it. The first thing is that you need to be able to tune into yourself. You have to be grounded and centered enough to know and that you know. So most of the time when I start working with people, that's where we start. Like, let's get you comfortable in your body. Burlesque or journey, dance, circle work, whatever it is. We're going to get comfortable being in our bodies, right? I mean, for some people, there's really a safety thing, and it's it's real, you know? and so most of it is like, how do we find more comfort within ourselves and, and know who we are.
Speaker 2 00:28:00 And then I think it comes really easy. Like, you know, for me personally, it feels calm and I feel really rested And in my belly, solid. Not like a full stomach solid, but like.
Speaker 1 00:28:20 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:20 Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like I'm here. I'm really present. I know who I am. My shoulders are soft and relaxed. My breathing is calm. You know, I'm just like, yeah, this is me. I'm feeling it. And when you're tingly, I guess jittery, uncomfortable. Maybe your shoulders are raised up, your stomach might be clenched. All of those things would be questions to me of like, really? Do you feel good? Are you feeling yourself? You know, if you can't feel your feet or parts of your body, you know, that's where I was. I would question it, but I think really like it's what do you do to feel your physical ness?
Speaker 1 00:29:08 I love this. And so this is a lot of what I teach in breathwork and somatic coaching is like, how can you feel the tip of one finger on a thumb? Even that body awareness for many people is so foreign that they're sort of like, what do you want me to do right now? Like, I'm touching my finger.
Speaker 1 00:29:26 I just feel it. And they're like, I don't know what you mean. Just feel it. Just feel my finger and my thumb. Yes. Just feel your finger and your thumb and slowing down to allow ourselves to sort of marinate in that moment of embodiment is definitely not something the patriarchy encourages, because when we slow down to engage in those moments and to really tune into our body, all of a sudden we have access to our intuition, to our inner knowing. And that's also going to disallow a lot of the things that have been allowed.
Speaker 2 00:30:00 Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 00:30:01 Yeah. Will you say more about the spells that you put in? You said you put spells in your nails like joy and so forth. Talk more about that.
Speaker 2 00:30:11 One of them is actually on my Instagram in the little the highlights. I try to put all the fingernails in there. I post a story and then so you can actually go through it, and there's one where it says the literal spell of it. and for that one I chose symbols of it.
Speaker 2 00:30:28 And so I it was invoking the power of the sun and the intuition of the moon. It was a couple of years ago. I don't remember the exact spell. but it was it was for presents. it was for presents that won. this is, you know, happy springtime. Because that's what I needed. yeah, it could be. I try to go. Not real complicated for daily life spells. I feel like if it's the easier it is to do, the more often you'll be in it. And some people might think of it as a mantra or an affirmation or something like that. I'm a practicing, which I call them spells. they're all the same thing. Honestly, a prayer to me. It's all really all the same thing. yeah. And there are just ways that I can little reminders that I stay present to that all day long.
Speaker 1 00:31:25 I love that. And to your point, you know, all of the things, whether we call it an affirmation, a spell, a mantra, a meditation, they're all intentions.
Speaker 1 00:31:36 We're setting an intention about something we want to either be or do or feel. And I think that if we can take away any charge that might be present for any of us around resonating with any of the terms or not resonating with any of the terms, I think we can open up to some really beautiful possibilities.
Speaker 2 00:32:00 Absolutely. Yeah. I think they're just different ways of interacting with it and experiencing it. You know, just you're right. I think it is all about the intention. It's the intention that you set for what you're creating, what you're building, what you want to bring into the world, how you want to be in the world, and how do you stay connected to that? Right. Because stuff's going to happen. It can be really easy to be thrown off.
Speaker 1 00:32:25 Absolutely.
Speaker 2 00:32:26 Yeah. Having those little reminders just keeps us present to it.
Speaker 1 00:32:30 Yes. One question that I often ask myself is, who do I need to be for this to come into my life? Or who do I need to be to bring this into reality? And I find that that question often will change my direction because.
Speaker 2 00:32:48 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:32:49 When I'm like in it this weekend, for some reason, I don't know if it was the lunar eclipse, if it was the full moon, if it was Mercury retrograde, if it was the impending spring equinox, I don't know. But I.
Speaker 2 00:33:01 Was.
Speaker 1 00:33:02 In it and I was in it for a long time for me, which was like 12 or 14 hours. Usually I can pivot out of it pretty quick. Not this weekend. And it took me asking that question who do I need to be to have the life I wanted? And then I was like, oh, okay, well, now I know that answer is not how I'm thinking and talking to myself right now. How can I share that?
Speaker 2 00:33:31 Yeah. It's true. That's that's a great question. I love that.
Speaker 1 00:33:35 What are ways that you shift if you're if you're having a tricky time. Do you use dance. Do you use. Yeah. Yeah. Tell us about your process.
Speaker 2 00:33:46 Almost always. Almost always. Well, you know what? Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 00:33:50 I if if something's really like, And I feel like I'm losing it, I will go and dance. And and usually in that moment, it looks like just shaking, honestly. Vibrating. I think some people call the somatic shake. It's all. It's what it looks like.
Speaker 1 00:34:07 Or trembling horse or. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:34:09 Yeah, exactly. I just, I put on music and that's what I do. Sometimes I'll take a walk. That is really always grounding for me. Especially if I can be in the woods. sometimes it's gardening, and. And I just learned that there is a bacteria in soil that gets released that affects your serotonin.
Speaker 1 00:34:30 I read that, too.
Speaker 2 00:34:32 Yeah. Isn't that funny? And the study is not. It's not that recent, but it just has popped up again. Maybe because it's spring, I don't. Apparently I need to garden. but what I find now that I've been doing the practices just as part of life, is that I don't generally get to that point. So I feel like self-care is not something that you do when stuff goes sideways.
Speaker 2 00:35:01 It's how you live your life so that you're okay with it when it does and not like, oh yeah, that's fine. But like, you can handle it and and be part of it. And so I just, I don't find that I get as thrown off as I used to honestly. And so but some of the things some of my regular practices are every night when I go to bed, I, I list everything I'm grateful for that happened that day. I have a, you know, tiny little journals that I keep on my bed, and it's anything and everything can be the same thing as it was yesterday. It could be as simple. When I first started it, it was like, I've got a house, I've got a roof over my head. There's food in the refrigerator, you know? Now it's like I said something kindly to someone when I was upset, you know, like I've gotten more detailed with it. sunshine, I'm always grateful for sunshine. I saw a rainbow yesterday.
Speaker 2 00:35:55 Yes, in my journal. You know, those kinds of things. I try to get up a little bit earlier than the rest of the household. because I still have a kid who's in high school that needs support getting out the door. And, so I get up a little earlier than everybody else, and I go in my broom closet, and I do, you know, whatever little prayer or meditation kind of a thing. There's, you know, I've got a particular rhythm that I do it in. So it's kind of a set process. And then I'm comfortable. You know, it kind of brings me into myself. And then I sit for a little while. Maybe it's five minutes, maybe it's ten minutes. It just depends on how much time I have. And I journal. And by then I'm usually pretty much in my body and and derived. And then I do dance multiple times a week. I do journey dance. I also teach classes, so that helps me stay physically in my body.
Speaker 2 00:36:52 And I have a dog that makes me walk almost every day. So, you know, those things all really help. But a lot of it are those things. It's just the regular day to day things that I do, and I say no to a lot of things now.
Speaker 1 00:37:08 Same same. Yeah. And to your point it takes a lot more which is good and bad. It takes a lot more to knock me off center than it has ever taken. I'm pretty grounded pretty even most of the time. Yeah. And it's because my self-care is not just manicures. It is like the journaling in the morning, and it is calling back my energy at night and the walking throughout the day and dancing. And, I have a playlist on my phone that is just called High Vibes, and I can just hit shuffle and know that whatever song is going to come on is going to be the right song for the moment, and I'll dance it out. And that just it resets energy almost instantly.
Speaker 2 00:37:54 Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 00:37:55 That's great. I we have I have a billion playlists on the Spotify from all the classes, and some of them are like that. It's just I there's definitely a lot of disco on my high vibes. One for anybody else who's a child of the 70s.
Speaker 1 00:38:09 So gotta love disco.
Speaker 4 00:38:12 Yeah, right. I don't know how you can hate it. It's just happy.
Speaker 1 00:38:15 It just feels good and it's so danceable.
Speaker 4 00:38:19 Right?
Speaker 1 00:38:20 And love it. How can people connect with you and learn more about your work and maybe work with you?
Speaker 2 00:38:29 Yeah. So it's Body Magic Temple as it's spelled on the screen with the K, on the internet, on Instagram, on Facebook. And you're welcome to message me in any of those places. I check all of them if you really want to, you know, take us, see a sample of what it is that we offer. If you go to Body magic.com, there's a free flow on there. The flow back to fabulous and that is a journey dance. So you can do it any time that you want.
Speaker 2 00:39:03 You don't even need a video screen. You do need to be able to hear me and the music, but you don't even need to see the video because it doesn't matter what I'm doing. It's about what you're doing. So yeah, Journey dance is like the guide leads, but the person does whatever they want to do. You can do it in a chair. I was injured when I was training in it. I had to do half of it on a balance ball. Oh, but it was still amazing.
Speaker 1 00:39:27 Oh my.
Speaker 2 00:39:27 Gosh.
Speaker 4 00:39:27 That's because it's.
Speaker 2 00:39:28 About your energy. It's not about like, you know, looking a certain way. It's just about moving the energy. Yeah. Anyway so you could go and check that out on there. yeah.
Speaker 1 00:39:40 That's amazing. And I'll put the link in the show notes so you can click on that. And, it's a really cool link. It's just body magic temple.com/fabulous. And it'll be clickable in the show notes. Is there anything else you want listeners to know or believe or understand or consider?
Speaker 2 00:40:03 I would love everyone to know that all of their wisdom is inside of them.
Speaker 2 00:40:12 That everyone struggles. But we don't have to do it alone. Sometimes we need somebody else to hold our fabulous for us and surround us in it, so that we can grab on to a piece of it and bring it back inside. So I think if you know, if you're in a place where you're having a hard time connecting with that energy yourself, go find that loving, supportive community. Obviously, Body Magic Temple welcomes lots of people, but there are many people out there and I just think it's totally possible. Just don't give up on the possibility. You're the one who's going to decide. You're the one who's going to make it possible. But there are other people out there who can help?
Speaker 1 00:40:53 Oh, that's so important. We're not alone.
Speaker 2 00:40:57 We're not alone.
Speaker 1 00:40:58 We're not alone. And you know, I traveled for full time for five months last year. And one of my overarching questions was, how do you form community? What makes community? And the the CliffsNotes version is community. Is there.
Speaker 1 00:41:16 The moment you show up for it. And so sometimes the hardest thing is showing up for a community you want to be a part of, whether that means leaving the house or logging into a zoom call or downloading a journey dance. And so invitation just to get brave and show up for the community you want.
Speaker 2 00:41:38 Absolutely.
Speaker 4 00:41:39 Awesome.
Speaker 1 00:41:40 Good. Thank you so much for being here today.
Speaker 2 00:41:43 Yeah. Thank you so much for the opportunity to connect with you. It's really lovely to think about all of these things.
Speaker 1 00:41:49 It's been great. I loved this conversation with Eva and I hope that you enjoyed it as well. One of my big takeaways is how important it is for us to feel our bodies. Just noticing your feet and your hands and your fingers and your legs, really allowing yourself to feel embodied. And even I talked about how important that is in terms of accessing your own intuition so that you can use your discernment. And in times like we're living, that is more important than ever before because there's so much misinformation out there, but your body always knows the truth.
Speaker 1 00:42:32 So taking the time to tune into it is really, really essential. And I would think long and hard about trusting anyone who prefers you in a disembodied state that's making you rush, that's encouraging you not to feel things in your body or telling you it's no big deal. So, I'll get off my soapbox. Eva has a free gift that I don't know if we talked about on the episode. She has a five minute flow back to fabulous self-love. Moving meditation. It's at Body magic.com forward slash. Fabulous. And you can also get connected with Eva that way. And I would love to know if this episode has been enjoyable for you. Would you please go give it your five star rating and review wherever you're listening? This podcast is not free to produce. It is not free for the guests to come on the podcast. And yet we're making it happen for you. So my sincere request is if you are enjoying this podcast, please go give it a rating and a review because there's a lot of time and energy and money invested in creating this show for you, and we need to know that it's hitting the mark.
Speaker 1 00:43:54 So if you have enjoyed listening to your life, please go give it a your rating and review. And if it's not five stars, okay, fine. but also invitation to email me and let me know more of what you want to hear of. I'd love to do that. And be sure you connect with both Eva and I on social media. I'm going to put all of the links in the show notes, and remember that the doors are now open for your yes filled life Group coaching program. We begin in mid September, and this is the only time this will be open for enrollment again until fall of 2026. So this 12 week program is your chance to create your yes filled life. Thank you so much for being here today. Bye for now. Until next time.