Brenda 00:00:00 Welcome to your yes filled life. I'm Brenda Winkel, an intuitive leadership coach and somatic guide for high performers, high achievers who want more freedom, ease, joy and energy. You are a visionary, leader driven, intuitive and ready for more more flow in your work, more presence and joy in your life and relationships. More trust in yourself and the decisions you make every day. Here we explore the intersection of intuition, leadership, and energetic sovereignty, blending practical strategy with energetic alignment so you can create success that feels deeply fulfilling at work, at home, in your relationships, and in your own well-being. You'll hear inspiring stories, practical strategies, and high level conversations designed to help you integrate the woo into your daily life. Because when your energy is aligned, everything flows ready to elevate how you lead and live. Start by downloading my free Energy Audit at. Audit and discover what's fueling or depleting you. Let's do this. Your yes filled life starts now. Hello and welcome to your yes filled life.
Brenda 00:01:18 I'm so happy you're here today. If you are a returning listener, welcome back. If it's your first time here. Welcome. I'm glad you're here. Today on the podcast, we have JJ De Geronimo. Now, JJ and I met through our mutual friend Anita Kuzma. Anita has been on the podcast and this just felt like such an amazing synchronicity because JJ hosts a group called Together We Seek. This is a group for lightworkers, healers, mystics, seekers who all want to come together. It's absolutely amazing and I can't wait for you to hear about it from JJ inside this episode. One of the things that really excited me about bringing JJ onto the podcast is she is an empath now an empath. I'm also an empath, and chances are if you're drawn to this podcast, you might be to an empath is someone who feels, senses and really embodies other people's emotions, other people's energy. You are the person who can read a room before you even entered the room. You probably are the person who helped your friends through her life circumstance.
Brenda 00:02:42 People probably tell you their life story without you even asking. And one of the things that I really appreciate that's coming in this conversation with JJ is her journey of how she Maintained her deep empathy and compassion, and also really created some of her boundaries that enabled her to do the really important work that she is doing and has done. So Geronimo is a two time award winning author, speaker and founder of two global communities Tech Savvy Women. And Together We Seek. Her latest book, seeking 74 Key Findings to Raise Your energy, sidestep self-doubt, and align with Your Life's work, is a transformative guide for women ready to trade overwhelm for meaningful impact. Drawing from a high powered tech career and a deeply personal spiritual awakening. JJ blends grounded wisdom with energetic alignment to help women recalibrate, re-energize and lead with intention. Her insights have been featured in Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, and Thrive Global, and through her books, retreats and her podcast. Together we seek. Where I was a guest, I will link the YouTube of my conversation with JJ on her podcast.
Brenda 00:04:06 And when that release is as a podcast, I will also update the show notes with that link as well. She hosts an amazing podcast again featuring speakers, lightworkers, mystics and healers. So whether you're connecting with JJ in her books, her retreats, her podcast, she continues to spark conversations that move women from doing to being. I'm so excited to introduce you to JJ De Geronimo. Hi, JJ.
JJ 00:04:40 Hi, Brenda. How are you?
Brenda 00:04:41 I'm great. I'm really excited to have you here. Thank you for being here.
JJ 00:04:46 I'm so proud of you. I just look at all. I mean, you've done so many podcasts, so many conversations. I'm thrilled to be part of it.
Brenda 00:04:53 Oh. Thank you. So before we really dive in, I have one question. What is something you either did or did not do that has led to your, yes, filled life?
JJ 00:05:09 You know, I think it's been a process. I've had to do a lot of inner work to get to a yes filled life.
JJ 00:05:18 I, like many of your guests, have been taught what to do and how to do it. And I think it leads us down a path of really reaching for external metrics to define how we feel about ourselves. And it took me a while to unwind those expectations and really step aside from my ego energy to live in a space that is more aligned with my inner knowing and my whispers and more of my truth to my gifts. And what I chose to do when I came back, came down on the planet.
Brenda 00:06:00 I love this. So I was just leading breathwork before we logged on. And one of the things that I had said was we've been taught, you know, to stay small, partially because people want us to be safe or maybe they're a little bit scared of our energy, or maybe they actually have, you know, nefarious motives in keeping us small. And what you're speaking to is, is like the untangling of all these teachings from other people. It's just incredible.
JJ 00:06:33 Yeah. And I think it is also goes to what you're saying is getting outside the matrix.
JJ 00:06:39 Right. Getting outside this sort of game that they play with us to stay small.
Brenda 00:06:45 Absolutely. And I also love that you highlighted it was not one thing. It was many things and a journey. And I think that, you know, at the end of the day, that's probably true for everyone is it's it's this little right actions, the small things over time that build up into something really, really profound.
JJ 00:07:08 That's the truth. And I feel like most of us, something kicks it off. There's a crossroads, there's a crumbling, there's a detour, there's a disappointment, there's a death. There's, you know, unmet expectations that really often creates a chasm, that we have this conversation with ourselves that often starts with like, oh my gosh, you know, and we are a victim in many senses to our situation until we're not. And I think there comes a point in many people's lives where they realize that they are not their situation and that they can assess what is happening around them, but they can control what is happening within them.
Brenda 00:07:57 That's an amazing distinction. You can assess what's happening around you and control what's happening within you. That's like a mic drop moment right there. Because you know there's so much focus outward right now if you look at the news and the narrative and and there's a lot of fear. But the truth is we have control within about how we respond, about how we feel, about how we direct our attention, about how we direct our energy. And that's where the real peace and power reside.
JJ 00:08:31 It is. Exactly. And that took me, I would say, six years to get to. So when you ask like, what's the one thing there is no one thing. It's a hundred million small things, small decisions, small choices, small areas of focus that gives you the reset on your behaviors, your decisions, the things you pay attention to that allow you to create the freedom away from the external.
Brenda 00:09:03 Yeah, absolutely. And when you said it took you six years I was like gosh I wonder how many years it took me.
Brenda 00:09:09 And I don't yet have the figure because I'm thinking, I feel like I'm still in it. I feel like I'm still exploring. I feel like I've been on this journey since at least 2014. but, you know, here we go.
JJ 00:09:27 Well, and the reason I say six years is because it took me a long time to kind of really manage three areas of my life. I had to practice at it all the time. And, and it was like it would pop up and then go back down. So I had to pay attention to what I was paying attention to. So what was I watching? What was I reading? What was I listening to? I had to pay attention to what I was saying because I call it practicing polluter, you know. Are you are you practicing polluter? Are you a share of light and just changing the way you have a conversation with yourself and how you have a conversation with others is so important. And then I had to pay attention to what was happening on the inside.
JJ 00:10:08 Like, what are my stories? What are my triggers? You know what makes me feel defeated? What makes me feel excited? And it took me a long time to kind of put all those puzzle pieces together so that I could move through a situation a morning, you know, a family event and be more of an observer. And I think that took a lot of practice, and it really required me to kind of shift what I knew. And I used and worked with a lot of energy practitioners, healers, lightworkers, mystics to to get the toolset to kind of clean out my vessels so that I had the capacity to show up differently.
Brenda 00:10:48 Yes. Yes. And I think my story would be on a parallel track. Like it took a lot of work. A lot of practitioners, mystics, lightworkers, healers, mentors you know to get kind of where I am. You have such an interesting backstory. Could you tell us a little bit about your journey, like how you got into this work and what you were doing before and what you do now?
JJ 00:11:11 I would love to because it's so.
JJ 00:11:15 I can't even believe it myself, honestly. Like I was like, what? How did how did I get here? In some respects, because I grew up in a very modest family outside of Buffalo, New York. I ended up going to school for computer science, which is crazy because I didn't know anything about computers, but it was the degree that paid, and I had nowhere to go. And I spent 20 years in high tech, most of which in Silicon Valley. and when I started having kids in my mid 30s. I realized like, this is this is not just hard, this is really hard. And I didn't have a lot of people kind of telling me, like, yeah, having it all you really can't do, it's almost impossible. And so I started hanging out with women that were five, ten, 15 years ahead of me and asking them best practices like, how do you keep a management role going on the other side of the country when you have two infants at home? And so I brought all that information together, really for my daughter.
JJ 00:12:06 But then the universe swooped in and sort of said, listen, we're putting this down on paper. And being dyslexic, I never thought I could really write a book. So that wasn't in my really toolkit or things I thought I was going to do. But the universe ushered me along, and I wrote my first book in 2008, shortly after starting my first women's group. And that kind of, sort of took me on this trajectory of having these conversations with women and what was expected of us. How do we manage it? Like how do we keep things going in the right direction and align our yeses? and then I wrote a second book about how do women get up, you know, get out of first line manager into executive positions, onto boards. And then I had a like sort of like a life breakdown in 2016. And I was like, everything I knew kind of just evaporated. I think. I feel like in a month, you know, there were things happening in my marriage.
JJ 00:12:54 My parents were having issues, like my dad was sick. You know, the big job that I had is my own company fell apart. And I found myself just sitting like, literally by myself thinking, okay, I have all these accolades, I have all these wonderful metrics. I feel so alone, and I'm in a major crossroads and I really don't even know what to do next. And that was kind of, I would say, the beginning of my life's work.
Brenda 00:13:23 I love this, I love this so much because my story is different in the sense that I was in education, I was in choral music education, and I was at, you know, what is arguably the pinnacle of a career. I was having national recognition. I was, you know, serving on on boards. I was directing really prestigious choirs in very prestigious events. And I remember coming home from a Nutcracker, I was a children's chorus director for an opera company. And I remember coming home and watching all the families disperse, and they were going out to celebrate.
Brenda 00:14:00 They were going for dinner, and they were very excited in their in their long black dresses and black tuxes. And they were so excited. And I went home by myself and laid out on the couch in such exhaustion. I couldn't reach the remote. And I thought to myself, what am I doing? And for what? Like for another certificate. For another plaque on the wall. For another thing on my resume. When I'm here alone. Exhausted.
JJ 00:14:32 Depleted. Right. Like totally depleted.
Brenda 00:14:34 Yes, absolutely. And so for me, I'd always been a little bit, not a little bit. I've always been sensitive and always knew that there was more, but I had pushed it underground and then became a people pleaser as a way to use my gifts without outwardly using my gifts. So I knew it was there, but I didn't know what to do with it, what it was called languishing around it or anything like that. And so when I studied Reiki, that was sort of my the switch that turned it all on back in 2014.
Brenda 00:15:05 What was the switch for you and how did you get into the work from that place in working in tech and with executives?
JJ 00:15:16 Yeah. So in 16, you know, I just turned to energy practitioners because I didn't I didn't know what to do. I felt like I was at such a crossroads and I felt very alone myself, just like you. And I was kind of like, I too have all these accolades. I'm on all these boards, I've written these books, I speak all over the country, and I feel so alone, and I don't even know what makes me happy anymore. Kind of. I'm sure that's how you felt, too.
Brenda 00:15:42 Absolutely.
JJ 00:15:45 So I would say that, you know, my mom, funny enough, I feel like you see glimpses of your life's work early on in your life, and you don't. And I look forward to hearing how you saw it. But my mom started taking me to Lilydale when I was like 12, and I wouldn't go see a medium, of course, but I would just walk the property or, you know, sit on the assembly stumps and just kind of listen.
JJ 00:16:08 Never in a million years did I think that I would open my own, you know, spiritual group and have such a, such a collection of so many powerful lightworkers, healers and mystics, you know. But I depended on them, as I worked myself out of my own hole and each practitioner brought another level or layer of self-awareness, and I could not have done it without them. And so when I write in my third book about seeking, I was just literally seeking, like, what do I do next? What is the next message? What's the next connection? And I feel like I really owe a lot of what I've done to people that were five and ten years ahead of me on their own seeking journey.
Brenda 00:16:55 Oh, I relate to that so deeply. And I've studied lots of different modalities. Not because I don't value each, but because I do value each. Because it's like a new tool. And the toolkit and the mentor that I chose for each was like you say, five or 10 or 15 years ahead of me, and sometimes in age, sometimes in wisdom, sometimes in both.
Brenda 00:17:20 And I feel like I'm learning at the feet of great spiritual teachers. And that was a really important part for me to learn from people who I valued. Their level of integrity, because there is some, there there are some unethical practices that are possible in this field. You know, when we talk about spirituality and healing. And so I really wanted to hone in on people that were practicing ethically, that were doing things for the right reason, for the highest and best for everyone. And so that was also a journey to finding those right people.
JJ 00:18:01 Yes. And that kind of is the catalyst of why I started together. We seek I started retreats in 1819, just bringing in some of my favorite practitioners to join me on Lake Erie to help other women remember, or at least tap into like, something from the inside, because so many of the women in my large group network on tech savvy women, or even people that I've worked with in the speaking, they're all professional women, and many of them realize that there's a missing piece.
JJ 00:18:29 And so I started these retreats in 18 for myself and to share some of the practitioners. And then when I started writing about my journey, kind of getting through this crossroads and the work I had to do not just with myself, but my relationship with money, my relationship with my mother, my perfectionism, the way I, self-worth get a hold on me, which often led into self-doubt. I had to really dig into corners of myself that I don't think I would have been prepared for if someone said, hey, this is the journey you're on and dive into all this. I've been like, hell no, we're not. You know, I'm going to keep all of that kind of tucked into a closet that nobody can access but me. But I had to dig through all my stories. And when I was writing the book, seeking, sharing all the different ways that you can really illuminate your path. Because the more work you do from within, the more illuminated you become and your path ahead shifts.
JJ 00:19:29 It's like a matrix that shifts, right? And so I started my podcast together we seek just to bring life to the lightworkers, healers and mystics I was working with because I feel like society purposely makes them kind of hide behind closed doors and different things because of ways that we've set up the way we worship. And it really has to shift because we're at a really instrumental piece of our existence here on this planet, and we need people that can tap into their gifts in ways that can help shift the frequency. And so I believe my work is bringing these practitioners together to work together so that the power and the energy and the momentum can actually be increased and allow us to work together to shift that frequency for the souls that are ready.
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Brenda 00:22:05 Like they have these gifts, but they haven't kind of embraced them yet. Fully. And so I love taking people who are feeling depleted, burnt out a little bit, lost a little bit, like, I don't know what to do. And then showing them, hey, guess what? You're an empath. You're an intuitive. You're a psychic. We've got these gifts. Let me. Let me help you use them. So I love that. It's like a shared mission from a different angle. It's it's really important. And you know your point about being hidden behind closed doors. You know, there's a, a lot of shame that comes when we're told to hide our gifts because there's such an innate part of who we are. That when we're told they're bad, they're not appropriate. They're spooky, they're scary, they're made up. Then we start to think, gosh, maybe I am. And so when, when you were on your journey and you were from corporate and, and you were working in these business capacities, how did you know that it was an energy healer? That might be the one to help you.
Brenda 00:23:20 Was it because you had tried other, more quote unquote, traditional types of things that didn't work, or what was that journey like?
JJ 00:23:30 that's an interesting question because I feel like, you know, there you can't really get a therapy appointment in the same day. So I felt like I was at like a, like that afternoon. I was like, what am I going to do? Like, I need to shift my I just need to I need something else. I just have to get out of this house. Like, I, I went online to three like, holistic metaphysical places and to see like who is having something because that's where my mom and aunts used to go. And clearly I'm going to have to go there too. And so I like showed up in the parking lot without registering. And I was like, I just don't know if I'm going to go in the store. Like, I, I it was nerve wracking and I just kind of pushed myself through the door and through the long haul, which used to be a place where nuns used to live, and it was dark and stained glass, and it was felt very eerie.
JJ 00:24:22 But I went all the way down the corridor to the open door, and I walked in and I just sat down. I didn't have to register or sign in because I didn't register, and it was quickly clear to the leader at that time who did tapping and Reiki herself that I wasn't like, registered. She didn't know me, but she was so gracious and just let me stay and encouraged me to come to a session with her one on one. And I mean, I feel like I was at such an instrumental point that I didn't know where to go and what to do. And I think if you just like, go to a yoga studio, go to a Pilates studio, go sit in the park, like go to Mother Nature. Like, honestly, women especially are nurtured from the land and from the trees and from the stones and from the water. So if you don't can't even afford to go to something like just get outside, walk the land, lay in the grass, like allow Mother Gaia to just wrap her arms around you.
JJ 00:25:17 Because I feel like we just we sometimes just think we're so by ourselves. And in reality, we're meant to feel that way so that we shift.
Brenda 00:25:26 Yes, absolutely. And I don't know about you, but for me, I was so ashamed of how I felt that day after The Nutcracker, because I knew I had outward success. I knew that I was making a difference in families lives. I knew I was like creating beautiful experiences for the audience. And so for me to be feeling depleted, I was really ashamed. And so when I was looking for practitioners, I wanted somebody who I knew would not feed that shame, who could help me bring that into the light so that I could work through whatever it was to work through. And so I was looking for somebody kind, non-judgmental, open minded and had, like, just healing energy And so. And I know, you know, my story might be unique in that way. Maybe not everybody deals with shame about feeling, but there was no way on earth I was going to sign up for a therapy appointment to tell them what I wanted to tell them, because I was so deeply ashamed.
Brenda 00:26:31 And so I was intentionally going to something alternative. Well, in this I was a Reiki practitioner when that happened. But even at the beginning of my journey, like in 2014, 2015, I needed to feel safe and I prioritized that safety above anything else. And little did I know that I was going to get better results than I would have had I done other types of more traditional things. So I just I love thank you for sharing your. It's interesting.
JJ 00:27:02 Yeah, I feel like I laugh because of the shame. Right? So so many lightworkers and healers and mystics here feel the shame because of past lives and things that have happened. And like it's hard to even wrap your mind around. But we come in here knowing that we have to break out of that shell and that many of us that are hidden or do feel shameful, or just feel like it's what we do is ridiculous. Like, it took me a long time to put lightworker on my LinkedIn profile because I was like, oh my gosh, what are people going to think? But then I got to a point.
JJ 00:27:29 I'm like, I really don't care because I feel like people see what they're going to see and some people won't even see it. And other people that are meant to see it will see it. so I feel like there's, there's like you putting yourself out there in a new way, especially for my where I was in technology and I did computer engineering and stuff like that was such a masculine way of showing up, and it was like very definable and very admirable in some ways. And now I'm like, okay, I'm a lightworker, I do channeling, I hold retreats, we do like energetic shifts to raise your frequency. Like, what the heck is all that? Right? But I feel like when I, you know, it's probably been even longer than six years where the last 2 or 3 years because I started in 16. I'm actually okay just being me, and I had to do all that inside work for six years to actually now present myself on the outside, which took another 2 or 3 years.
JJ 00:28:21 So it's been a journey, and I feel like anyone, no matter where you are, like you are where you're supposed to be, and oftentimes you know that there's somewhere else you're going. And I think giving yourself grace to just lean into what is ever happening around you. And, you know, I often say like, help me learn this lesson, Finster. Like, whatever lesson I'm in, like, help me understand so that I can move through this lesson knowing that everything is a lesson.
Brenda 00:28:50 Absolutely. And as we sit here, I'm aware that you're reading energy, that there's, there's different things that are popping into your awareness, which is kind of cool to watch because I see that in myself sometimes where I just will, I can, I can see it drop in because I recognize it in, my process. And that's something that I always had and I was I was never ashamed of that. I was ashamed of my inability to handle working 70 hours a week, which is so silly.
Brenda 00:29:22 Like most people don't handle working 70 hours a week for very long. But, you know, to your point about the LinkedIn profile, I think that that is real. That's definitely something that I had to work through. so that my LinkedIn profile reflected what I actually do. And I think that, you know, in the light workers that are in your together we seek group and podcast. Do you feel like that's a pretty common experience?
JJ 00:29:50 Oh, yeah. So it's great because I am I want to know about the journey. What what was the journey to get to the gifts that you use now and how does it help other people? And I feel like most of my guests have had one or Multiple things happen. I would say more than 50% of them have had really difficult situations, whether it's like how they grew up, the religious institute they were involved in, kind of people accepting them or not. Some have been in car crashes, some have had debilitating diseases or cancer, and so they've had to really work through that to get to the other side where they can heal others.
JJ 00:30:32 And so that's like a big group of them. The other group is like, they've gone in and out, but they have had to use different techniques and other people to help them really shine their lights in the world. And I feel like the journey is so important because we all have gifts and many of us are masking them or hiding them. And I love showcasing the stories of how people really leaned into their gifts, or what happened for them to really choose their gifts, because it gives us all inspiration That it is possible to do what lights you up.
Brenda 00:31:11 Yes, indeed. And it's possible not only to do what lights you up, but to make a living doing what lights you up and to contribute in a way that feels really nourishing. I just love that I love that. So do you offer private sessions or do you like how do people work with you.
JJ 00:31:32 Yeah it's really interesting because I'm still like kind of working that out right now. I'm really a catalyst for change. And so I am sort of here down on the planet collecting, building the groups, the communities and getting people to connect with each other.
JJ 00:31:47 I do a lot of still speaking and I love that, but I am definitely moving more towards seeking, like, retreats and different destinations to kind of rattle us up, like do something different. Get out of your every day. Every day. I don't do any one on ones. it's just not my calling at this point. And so, yeah, I'm really here, I. God takes care of me in other ways at this point, and I'm really just shifting more from a B to B to A, B to C. And so I'm curious how this is going to manifest myself because I'm Aquarius, sun and a cancer rising, which is a humongous two decades ahead for both of these signs. So I'm really curious to see what God does with me next.
Brenda 00:32:32 Oh, I love hearing that. I'm a Pisces sun and a cancer rising and a sad moon. And so that's moon.
JJ 00:32:39 Sad moon. yeah. So it's a big time for us. It's a really big time. And Pluto's going to your sign next, so.
JJ 00:32:48 No, no, no, no, that's not true. Pluto. Oh, yeah. Yeah it is. Pluto is going to be going to your sign next that came out of Capricorn. So yeah. So the next stage of Pluto is going to be in Aquarius and then into Pisces. So it's going to be very interesting. I am, like I lean on all of my knowing. So birth charts, human design, Enneagram, numerology, gene keys. Like I have all of that in ChatGPT and all my programs so I can just kind of be like, what kind of day? What kind of week? Well, it's so helpful, but I would say that, I'm really learning to wait to be invited. So my human design is I need to be wait to be invited instead of creating everything myself, which I've been doing for a long time. Two decades. Are you.
Brenda 00:33:29 A doctor?
JJ 00:33:30 No, I'm a generator.
Brenda 00:33:32 You're a generator. Okay.
JJ 00:33:35 So I am really practicing, waiting and being to be invited.
JJ 00:33:41 that doesn't mean I don't do the work. It just means I'm not initiating something completely out of thin air that I thought of, that I think would be fun or something I want to do, because I've spent a lot of cycles doing all kinds of things, and many did not manifest because I wasn't supposed to initiate things that I wasn't asked to initiate. So, so I'm kind of really practicing listening and paying attention and observing and seeing what crossed my path rather than creating my path.
Brenda 00:34:09 I love this so much because I think that there's something so rich for every one of us. When we can learn to listen and go with whatever it is we're being told, whether it's to create or to wait or to be invited. that's definitely been part of my big learning is waiting for. For me, I'm an emotional authority, and so I have to wait for the emotional wave to settle out enough that I can feel the the true ness of whichever way I want to go. And I used to. I'm a manifesting generator, which means I have bazillion of ideas and I love to start things.
Brenda 00:34:49 I love to execute things. I do not love to finish things. and so when I learned I was a human Design. Manifesting generator I was like, I felt such relief because I had judged that part of me from, you know, I've been a photographer, I've been a music teacher, I've been a Reiki master, I've been a theta healing. Now I'm doing this. And so there was a part of me that was judging that and making it bad. And when I learned about human design, I was realizing, oh, no, this is this is like my makeup. This is what I'm this is how I'm built, is I start and practice a lot of different things, garnering little bits of wisdom from each of these things and then putting it into some unique soup.
JJ 00:35:33 Yes, yes, I have some of the similar makeup. You know, I have. My books are a perfect example. Like I have to go through it before I can teach it. And my books are truly like workbooks and teaching lessons like, hey, let me make your path a little shorter.
Brenda 00:35:46 Oh, I love that, I love that. Where can we find your books? And I'll put the links in the show notes as well.
JJ 00:35:51 Oh yes. You can find them on Amazon. And they've got, you know, check out the reviews. I love reading the reviews. It's so great. And I feel like this third book, seeking, really has a frequency. So if you're ready to shift, if you feel like you, there's more in the world to do. Book is a workbook, so you can really jump into any chapter, because I feel like you probably know what you need to heal for a second and third. If you read the words and it really resonates with you or you really want to reflect it, it's usually like, okay, well, that's probably where I need to start.
Brenda 00:36:20 Amazing. Okay, I cannot wait for that. And I want to make sure we're not done yet. But I want to make sure that people know where can they find you? How do they connect with you?
JJ 00:36:28 Yeah.
JJ 00:36:29 So JJ De Geronimo, you can find me on any platform. I think the most favorite thing that I'm working on right now is I have a community on my networks where many of the podcast guests come into. They put their profiles up there, they share their retreats. We talk about favorite, metaphysical stories and books. So that's together. We seek data online. And it's really about kind of what you mentioned earlier is having a trusted source of resources that you can tap into. No matter where you're ready. I mean, I think some of us are very ready and they're like, oh my gosh, tell me the five people I need to meet with right now. And others are like, let me read a little bit more about this, but this is definitely the shift for women. I mean, we have been for so long, been told to kind of stay small, be quiet, whatever. And I feel like the shift is coming in such a big way where women are like, okay, I thought election was going to be like the thing that women come up and stand out for.
JJ 00:37:27 Sadly, that did not happen. but now I think women are really starting to realize, like this, this, this, this matrix is not working for me. And my real goal is to get more women at more tables. So whether you read a book and get there, or you work with a lightworker or you, you know, come to one of my events, anything that's going to allow you to tap into your true self and give you the confidence to lean into what is calling you.
Brenda 00:37:59 I just love this. I had chills when you were talking because you know the downloads that I'm getting and when I say downloads I just mean like I'll be meditating and then for me I have all the Claire's and then some other things too. And so when I say a download, I'm speaking about some kind of a, an awareness that has popped in for the listener, that's like, what's a download? so I know, I mean, I know like, I know like I know that we have more and more people like exponentially more every single day that are sort of like opening their eyes like, wait, what's happening? This is this is not where I thought I would be.
Brenda 00:38:40 And they're hungry for spiritual awareness and they're hungry for, learning, and they're hungry for community and connection. And so I absolutely love that you have created this community of of people and practitioners that are trustworthy and ethical and, a beautiful resource for people. And and I do think, like you said, I think there's a new wave coming where people are like, hey, I'm ready to jump out of this matrix because it is hard to live there.
JJ 00:39:17 Yes, yes, I really try not to because of the work that I do. the Goodyear blimp is going by my window right here now. yes. So it's so funny. So just. Is that not a sign? That's a sign. Everything is a sign. I feel like everything. Today I found a spider on my clothes and a closet. I would never expect to have a spider. Oh, there's two of them. Wow. Talk about signs. You know, signs are all around us. Signs are all around us. And I feel like the more present you can be, the more you'll see the beauty of everything that comes your way.
JJ 00:39:51 And I have really leaned into the practice of gratitude, and it's as simple as like, thank you for my coffee. Thank you for my gas. Thank you for this desk that I can work from. Three of them three Goodyear blimps are going by my window right now. Three of them? Three. Incredible. When does that ever happen? You're lucky to see one. But to see three, that is insanity. This is how my life is now. Like, I can't even explain to people sometimes the things that are happening to me. And I think it's because I'm keeping myself at a higher frequency. Yes. And for people who don't know that, I kind of think of radio stations. Right. Are you at 94.1? Are you at 99.7? Like, I try to get as high to 99.7 as I can. So I pay attention to what I watch. I pay attention to what I say, I pay attention to what I listen to and how I talk to myself. And these are the practices that I've had to learn and work on every single day.
JJ 00:40:46 And the more that I work on them, the higher my frequency becomes. And when my frequency becomes higher. Things outside of me are shifting all the time.
Brenda 00:40:53 Absolutely.
JJ 00:40:55 Phone calls, invitations, you know, like just access. People are inviting me to things. And there were times in my life that I had to work so hard to get an invitation. Now I really just said, I, like I said, I'm a my main goal is to manage my frequency. Don't let somebody at the grocery store or down the street shift you. You have control of how you show up. And I have a lot of people that I go to events and they want to tell me their whole life stories, and I really just have to be create space for them, but not allow their energy to impact my energy. Because as soon as I let other people's energy impact my energy, then my frequency goes down and it takes me a while to get it back up. And I want to be at a higher frequency because it's like magic.
Brenda 00:41:39 Totally, totally. So you're speaking to a couple of things. One is, in the map of Consciousness Explained, written by David Hawkins. He did a scientific study that measured using brain scans and all bunch of scientific equipment. The actual emotions, and determined that there were different vibrations for each emotions.
JJ 00:42:01 And a triangle. I think I've seen this.
Brenda 00:42:03 Well, yes. So it's a triangle. But then Abraham Hicks talks about a similar thing. And so all to say that what you're saying is based in sound science, it is not. Woo. Although it is oftentimes framed as woo, but it is a scientific fact that better feeling emotions are higher vibrational emotions and they are magnetic. And, you know, the other thing is that so important when you're talking about people telling their life stories, I talk about in my community, the difference between content and context. The content is what you're learning, what you're experiencing, how you're feeling, the lessons that maybe you're working through, the stories that you're letting go of the context is the what? Like your mom said something mean about you and your kids.
Brenda 00:42:52 That's context. The content is you're feeling hurt because it reminded you of something in the childhood. And so I talk a lot about let's stick to the content. Yes, some context sometimes feels supportive to share. But if you get stuck in the context, you will never learn the content. And then we'll just have a repeating pattern.
JJ 00:43:15 Yes. Right. Right, right. It's like you can't get stuck on the trigger. You got to pull back and be like, why does this trigger me?
Brenda 00:43:21 Yeah, exactly. And one of the hardest things that I've had to learn is that anytime I'm feeling anything less than ideal, whether that's feeling joyful or feeling excited or passionate or whatever, I'm stuck in a part. So if I'm irritated by somebody else's behavior, it's because there's a trigger in me. There's something that's saying, hey, I need love, attention, healing and compassion. And that was a really, really difficult pill to swallow because I had a lot to heal. So I was triggered a lot of the time.
JJ 00:43:55 We all do. We all have things to heal. We're all, you know, we picked our families. We've picked our siblings like there's no accidents. You're through. You've gone through what you've gone through because you wanted to experience the next level of awakening, the next level of feeling, whatever that is for you. So if you just say, you know, life is happening for me and I would love to move through this lesson, so please show me what the lesson is so I can move through it. it's just really so, so helpful. And like, I've shifted so much in the way I go to the grocery store. I used to be, like, on the phone, rushing through, getting the things, you know, barely even talking to anyone, rushing to get the bags. And now I'm like, I still have a lot to do, but I feel like my friends are at the grocery store now. Some of the people that work there like, hey, how are you doing? Like, I am in my life and I can't really say I was in my life a decade ago.
JJ 00:44:50 I was saying that I was living a life, but I wasn't in my life. And I feel like for me, life is about the journey. As so many books have said, the journey could be just going and picking up milk and seeing someone in the parking lot saying hello. Noticing a feather on the ground, walking in the store and hearing a song that you like. Talking to Bob who fills the milk every day. Like that's the journey. It's not like getting to the other side of the continent and being like, oh, I can sit in this chair and I can feel awakened, like the journey is in everyday life. And I feel like we are kind of taught that we never have enough and that it's never going to work out. And, you know, if you have the TV on a lot, you just it's just message, message, message. And you don't have your own feelings because you have an association to everything. So I think the biggest thing someone can just start doing is paying attention to what you're paying attention to.
JJ 00:45:43 Are you feeding your soul with things that are raising your frequency or taking your frequency down? Are you calling people that are raising your frequency or taking it down. And how do you contribute to other people's frequency.
Brenda 00:45:58 That's a beautiful one. Because oftentimes we don't think about that when we're thinking about our own frequency. I love that I'm curious, you've mentioned TV and I totally drinking the Kool-Aid on that. I absolutely agree that what you consume has a massive impact on how you feel and how you can, tend to your own frequency. I'm wondering, what's your relationship to your phone?
JJ 00:46:23 I would say it's a learning device. Mostly I use my phone as a learning device. So my phone is podcasts, YouTubes. That is what I do on my phone. Like, especially at night. It's how I calm down when I'm doing any type of trip. I'm listening. You know, I talked to different people here and there, but when I was writing my third book, I basically told them all my friends and family like, hey, I'm writing this book that requires an intense amount of energy and a very high frequency.
JJ 00:46:48 So I'm going to be writing this book for 18 months. So like, I cannot engage in family drama. I can't engage in neighborhood drama. Like, I'm not your girl. If you have to sort through shit, I'm not your girl during these 18 months because I am really have to stay in a certain frequency to write this book. And I, I really feel like I was guided on so many of the pages and channeled so much information because I really created this container. And since then, I haven't really gone back to those conversations. And so I do not call people that are going to weigh me down with nonsense like I I'm sorry, I have some friends who have just dropped out of my life, but I spent a lot of quiet time alone and I don't mind it at all.
Brenda 00:47:34 I have found the same thing and I, I wish I would have had the articulate way that you described needing to protect your frequency. I think mine was much more clumsily done but I have found so much more peace, happiness, inspiration, creativity and just inspiration from limiting negative conversations where it's like the, the dump, you know, where you call somebody and they dump on you.
Brenda 00:48:02 I'm just I'm absolutely not available for that.
JJ 00:48:08 Yeah, I just, I just, I love myself too much now to just allow people to just dump on me. I don't, and because I'm an empath, I spent a lot of years solving other people's problems and helping them through divorce and all kinds of things. And I'm just that's not how I want to spend my energy anymore. Not that I won't be a support system, but I don't want to be the everyday call that I have to dissect everything their ex-husband or Our ex-wife is doing like I have. I have a lot of work to do in the world, and I really need to protect my frequency, and I need to be very conscious of how I talk to myself, how I talk about others, even if I don't say it out loud. I really want to get to the point where I am like skipping through life. I'm not there yet. I'll be totally honest, but I want to enjoy my life. I've been working really hard on different things, and I really want to get to a point where I enjoy my life.
Brenda 00:49:00 I love this and I feel the same. I want to enjoy my life. I'm happy to help you and love you through something and also I can't hold it or carry it for you.
JJ 00:49:11 No, and I think for a lot of people, you know, this is a great way to use and work with energy practitioners. If you have a repeat situation that comes up with different characters, as you mentioned, you know, I always get in a relationship where it does this or I already always get a job to get this, you have to break that cycle. And, you know, the two of us know knew so many different energy practitioners. You can call, you can ask us, this is my problem. And how who would you go to? I'd probably give you a few podcasts to take a listen, but I feel like for many of us, like you have to get to a point where you want to work through repeat situations that are dragging you down. You have to love yourself enough to say no more.
Brenda 00:49:52 That's right.
JJ 00:49:53 And I said no more back in 16. But I didn't have the tools to do it myself. And that's really why I turned to energy practitioners, because I didn't know who else to turn to, and I didn't want to drag through my entire life. And there's a lot of energy practitioners that can do healings on you that you don't have to go through. What happened to you when you were six or 12 or 2? They're so talented. and we would love to share those people with you, because we want you to get on the other side of whatever is holding you back, whatever anger, you haven't been able to unhook yourself.
Brenda 00:50:26 Absolutely. 100%. And from a trauma informed lens. There's a lot of research that says rehashing these things, like in a talking kind of way, actually traumatize the brain. We have tons of research to suggest it's not the most effective way to heal trauma. And so, yes, reach out to JJ or I or me, I guess is proper grammar.
Brenda 00:50:49 JJ or me? And we will hook you up with practitioners. And one of the things that I can sense in you already is that if something is in a particular practitioner's scope of practice, you'll recommend that practitioner. And same for me. If I feel like something is or is not in my scope of practice, I will tell someone this is outside of the scope of what I do. And I think that, you know, having people that you know will tell you I may not be the best fit for you, but I know someone who is is absolutely worth gold.
JJ 00:51:21 Like, for example, if you're having a medical issue, your doctor, I would send you to a gentleman in Youngstown that does medical medium. If you have something that you know, something in your shoulder, your hip, that you've gone to six doctors, I'd send you to Marion, Columbus. I'd send you to a woman for try to release energy that is not serving you in your body, like there's so many lovely, lovely people that tapped into their gifts, that have done the work and that are ready and willing to help you.
JJ 00:51:48 And honestly, it is magical when you start to alleviate or eliminate energy that you've been holding for so long. It's like a breath of fresh air. It's a new lease on life. Yes, and this is the way I really love to work with energy practitioners is to lighten my load because I can't. Yeah, I can't skip if I've got 27 anchors.
Brenda 00:52:11 Skipping is so much harder when you're carrying anchors.
JJ 00:52:15 Right. And it's not happening. So for me so so this is the work I'm doing now, and I feel like I am the catalyst to help bring to make normalize working with energy practitioners, healers. I feel like some of us do it, but not all of us. And for my network of women in business, it often, you know, a Myers-Briggs, a strength finder is totally normal, but a birth chart is not. And so how do you use all the tools and resources available to you to allow you to illuminate your path forward?
Brenda 00:52:41 Oh, I love it. And on that note, do you have anything else you'd like to share with our listeners today?
JJ 00:52:48 Well, I hope you guys join me on one of my retreats.
JJ 00:52:50 I have a mystery retreat going to be come out in June. And, I really would like to spend time just going to sites and really just exploring ways that we can learn and connect together. I feel like many of us have been working alone or working in our home, and it's just time to just start spending more time in circle with women.
Brenda 00:53:12 Yes, absolutely. JJ, thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.
00:53:18 Oh, this was so fun.
JJ 00:53:19 Thank you for the invitation.
Brenda 00:53:21 Of course.
